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"Teancum and Amalickiah typify this principle. It's always the wicked against the wicked in the Book of Mormon, never the righteous against the wicked. In the duel between Amlici and Alma (see Alma 2:29-31), wasn't that a good guy against a bad guy? No, when the war was over they mourned terribly because they were convinced that the war had been because of their wickedness. They had brought it on themselves. They weren't fighting bad guys as good guys after all. In the same way, Mormon counsels, Don't worry about the wicked; surely the "judgments of God will overtake the wicked; and it is by the wicked that the wicked are punished" (Mormon 4:5)." (Nibley, Warfare and the Book of Mormon)

Author: Hugh Nibley, Source: Warfare and the Book of MormonSaved by Dmotola87 in war peace 4 years ago[save this] [permalink]

The Book of Mormon teaches us how to treat terrorism to actually rid it out from our population.

In Helaman 6:37 it reads: "And it came to pass that the Lamanites did hunt the band of robbers of Gadianton; and they did preach the word of God among the more wicked part of them, insomuch that this band of robbers was utterly destroyed from among the Lamanites."

The Nephites, however, did not try such an approach; instead, they tried war. Although the Nephites were cautious enough to appoint a general who had the spirit of prophecy and of revelation, this did not overcome their reliance on the arm of flesh to remove the Gadianton Robbers in such a nonviolent and effective way through trust and faith in the Lord and their cause through bearing down pure testimony. Although Gidgiddoni would not go up to preemptively attack the Robbers, the Nephites still chose war as opposed to testimony. Although the Nephites eventually overcame their oppressors through matching violence with violence, their actions never achieved the persuading victory of the Lamanites over the Gadianton Robbers -- nor was their victory as long lasting in righteousness as was the Lamanites. Yes, they called on God, and, yes, God prospered them out of their reliance of temporal violence, but good, better, best applies here in scripture in how to deal with terrorism -- and I choose the best.

When confronted with a violent people -- whose ways have been that of a transgressor from the beginning -- do we initially take the stance of the Nephites, or do we take the stance of Ammon and his brethren? The Lamanites, in their day, were the terrorists and the most violent and bloodthirsty that they could imagine -- completely irredeemable.

3 Now do ye remember, my brethren, that we said unto our brethren in the land of Zarahemla, we go up to the land of Nephi, to preach unto our brethren, the Lamanites, and they laughed us to scorn?

24 For they said unto us: Do ye suppose that ye can bring the Lamanites to the knowledge of the truth? Do ye suppose that ye can convince the Lamanites of the incorrectness of the traditions of their fathers, as stiffnecked a people as they are; whose hearts delight in the shedding of blood; whose days have been spent in the grossest iniquity; whose ways have been the ways of a transgressor from the beginning? Now my brethren, ye remember that this was their language.

25 And moreover they did say: Let us take up arms against them, that we destroy them and their iniquity out of the land, lest they overrun us and destroy us.

And was Ammon's purpose to prove victory of terrorism through bloodshed and the sword, like unto his brethren -- those members of the Church, the Nephites, who had and supposedly lived the words of God? No...

26 But behold, my beloved brethren, we came into the wilderness not with the intent to destroy our brethren, but with the intent that perhaps we might save some few of their souls...

30 And we have suffered all manner of afflictions, and all this, that perhaps we might be the means of saving some soul; and we supposed that our joy would be full if perhaps we could be the means of saving some.

31 Now behold, we can look forth and see the fruits of our labors; and are they few? I say unto you, Nay, they are many; yea, and we can witness of their sincerity, because of their love towards their brethren and also towards us.

32 For behold, they had rather sacrifice their lives than even to take the life of their enemy; and they have buried their weapons of war deep in the earth, because of their love towards their brethren.

33 And now behold I say unto you, has there been so great love in all the land? Behold, I say unto you, Nay, there has not, even among the Nephites.

It is perhaps the most astonishing instance in text that a bloodthirsty people -- brought up in the absolute false traditions of their fathers with a unquenchable hatred to anyone not in their group -- would be brought so lowly to righteousness that through their repentance they perceived the celestial and divine and truly understood the eternal essence of our humanity and of Christ's purpose, atonement, and what it means to truly sacrifice and follow Christ to the cross...

There are ways to deal with terrorists as listed in the Book of Mormon in several places, and should we all take a moment to pause, think, and question our initial pull to defend ourselves with violence instead of extending hyperactive testimony to those of our enemies who seek so passionately to destroy us.

Author: Shiloh Logan, Source: LDS Liberty Facebook Thread Saved by Dmotola87 in terrorism 4 years ago[save this] [permalink]

Sometimes we see welfare as simply another gospel topicóone of the many branches on the gospel tree. But I believe that in the Lordís plan, our commitment to welfare principles should be at the very root of our faith and devotion to Him. (2011 October General Conference, Providing in the Lordís Way, Priesthood Session - Dieter F. Uchtdorf)

Author: Dieter F. Uchtdorf, Source: GCSaved by Dmotola87 in welfare chairity providing 8 years ago[save this] [permalink]

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